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Tuesday, January 18, 2022

Democrats are nazis. Here's proof.

One tactic of liberal politicians and their lackeys is to accuse others of what they are doing, to distract from what they are doing.

They like to call conservatives Nazis.

Well check this out: https://www.tampafp.com/poll-nearly-half-of-democrats-support-fines-segregated-camps-and-prison-terms-for-those-who-disagree-with-them-on-covid/

Or look here: https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/partner_surveys/jan_2022/covid_19_democratic_voters_support_harsh_measures_against_unvaccinated

Quoting from the Tampa FP linked article:

55 percent of Democrats support a “proposal for federal or state governments to fine Americans who choose not to get a COVID-19 vaccine,” Rasmussen noted.

An even bigger share of Democrats, 59 percent, favor “a government policy requiring that citizens remain confined to their homes at all times, except for emergencies, if they refuse to get a COVID-19 vaccine.”

Almost half of Democrats – 48 percent – have given up on the First Amendment by thinking “federal and state governments should be able to fine or imprison individuals who publicly question the efficacy of the existing COVID-19 vaccines on social media, television, radio, or in online or digital publications.” 

Similarly, 45 percent of Democrats like the idea of COVID camps, where governments could require citizens “to temporarily live in designated facilities or locations if they refuse to get a COVID-19 vaccine.” [Concentrate them in a camp.]

Meanwhile, 47 percent of Democrats are fine with governments “using digital devices to track unvaccinated people to ensure that they are quarantined or socially distancing from others.”

Rasmussen also found that a sizable portion of Democrats – 29 percent – would support “temporarily removing parents’ custody of their children if parents refuse to take the COVID-19 vaccine.”

So, here we have the privileged imposing marginalization, exclusion, penalty, separation, silencing, and surveillance on people who disagree. Vaccination apartheid, literal concentration camps and ghettoes.

Look - if masks worked, we would not have a pandemic. Given the pandemic, if the vaccines worked, the pandemic would be over. But no, we need more masking and more vaccinations.

One definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting different results.

The point is, science and every day experience proves this attitude about vaccination is stupid.

But keep those poll results in mind and consider this from the Anti Defamation League. Oh and before anybody accuses me of diminishing the horror of the Holocaust against Jews, I have always considered the phrase "Lest we forget" to be not just "so Jews never experience this again" but "so neither Jews nor ANY OTHER GROUP ever experiences this again." This is not about the Jews, it is about the Nazism.

Here: https://www.adl.org/resources/backgrounders/nazi-germany-and-anti-jewish-policy

The Nazis had book burnings, the Democrats have internet and social media giants doing their censorship. The Nazis had boycotts and confiscations of targeted people's businesses, the Democrats want to make it difficult or impossible to for certain people to work, shop, live. The Nazis made ghettoes in their cities, and eventually concentration camps, the Democrats want to do the same. The Nazis confiscated possessions, the Democrats want to tax and of course if you fail to pay the tax then they can confiscate. The Nazis had special identification practices, the Democrats talk about vaccine passports. The Nazis turned neighbors against neighbors, the Democrats want surveillance.

One thing about the poll results - you might say "only 45% supported concentration camps, which means most did not." I have not been about to find the breakdown of results, but it stands to reason a sizable chunk answered "somewhat oppose" - meaning that in this group the opposition is rather soft. The shock here is that an overwhelming majority of any American group did not "strongly oppose." At the Rasmussen Reports article, they note that 78% of Republicans and 61% of Independents "strongly oppose" this measure. 

This nation has fought terrible, bloody wars to fight such beastly measures. Is it anything less than treacherous for an American to support them now? They run around calling the Jan 6 rioters "insurrectionists" and yet... what did I say at the beginning of this post?


Tuesday, January 4, 2022

CDC data, mRNA science, and covid-19 vaccines

Over 7 years ago, I went into a premature blogging retirement because my views on many contemporary issues are not politically correct and I felt my job could become jeopardized, and I just couldn't keep up with all the new bioethical fads. And then Pope Francis came out with Amoris Laetitia and started getting rid of Pope St. John Paul II's institutes on the theology of the marriage and family - and he basically undermined all the graduate work I had done. I could spend a lot of time on that guy but I won't.

This is about covid-19 vaccines and science. 

CDC VAERS data

So a prominent member of congress got permanently booted from Twitter for sharing the chart you will see below. Twitter called it misleading. Let's not take Twitter's word for it - but again let's not assume that Twitter is wrong either.

I want to find out the truth.

So first off, the chart purports to represent data from the CDC. The title describes what it is attempting to show. The data are apparently obtained by using the CDC data search tool found here: https://wonder.cdc.gov/vaers.html

A few notes:

  • This is all deaths reported by health professionals in relation to each of the vaccines listed. There may be a small number of health professionals reporting things like "accidental death" in relation to the use of a vaccine, but that is not common. These data also do not include unreported deaths even if they were caused or related to these vaccines, because they weren't reported, which would mean the "real" numbers are somewhat higher
  • We do not know if people lately are being more diligent in reporting because covid-19 is so much on everyone's mind, and so more are being reported for covid-19 vaccines than others
  • And we do not know how many total people received each vaccine in that time period. Could be only a handful - or hundreds of millions. Considering the routine pediatric vaccination schedule in the US and the time frame, it is most likely that more people have received other vaccines than covid-19 vaccines
  • The period is 1990-present. "Present" is ostensibly sometime in late 2021. Still, these data show that, for instance, measles vaccines in the past 31 years were associated with a small fraction of deaths compared to the covid-19 vaccines in the past 1 year. Let's keep in mind this proportionality as we try to duplicate the numbers


Using the VAERS tool, I cannot duplicate these numbers. I searched with results sorted by symptom and then by vaccine type, location US, vaccine administration dates 1990-present (1/4/2022), and symptom chosen was "death." 

I am not saying that the graph is wrong - it's just I cannot verify the actual numbers, and maybe I am doing it wrong.

So here are my numbers in a screen grab from the VAERs tool. 

The proportionality of deaths illustrated in the bar graph seems consistent with these numbers. In other words, although I find only 8,339 US deaths reported for covid-19 vaccines, not over 21k (even for "all locations" it is still only 10k-ish), I also find only 67 deaths reported for the MMR and MMRV vaccines (the first M being measles), whereas the graph has 519. If my numbers are lower, they're lower across the board.

From a proportionality standpoint, however, this is actually worse for covid-19 vaccines. Instead of being 40x higher than measles per the bar chart, the numbers I get for covid-19 vaccines are 125x higher.

One confounding factor was that the top right column says there were 8,376 events, but the Totals row at the bottom shows 11,156. So there must be a significant number of individual deaths reported for more than one vaccine - but if so, the covid-19 vaccine would be implicated in almost every case. So I don't know what to make of the 8,376. 

Still - ignoring the right column for the sake of discussion, of the 11,156 total deaths reported for vaccines over the last 31 years, 75% (8,339) have been reported in the last year or so in relation to covid-19 vaccines. Deaths reported for covid-19 vaccines in 1 year are 3x higher than all other vaccines combined in over 30 years.

This deserves to be discussed. On the other hand, maybe I'm doing it wrong. Or interpreting it wrong.

mRNA technology

This technology kind of creeps me out. What the mRNA vaccines do is commandeer the body's cells to make the dangerous spike protein found on the covid-19 virus, so that the immune system can respond to it, and thereby defeat the virus itself should you get infected. 

I don't know why anyone thinks this is a good idea. It's like a community recruiting and indoctrinating terrorists so that law enforcement learns how to recognize and deal with them.

With traditional vaccines, someone is simply exposed to a dead virus (or bacteria for that matter) or to key components of dead viruses - so that all your body does is learn to recognize and neutralize the virus. It doesn't get programmed to make virus parts.

The inventor of the technology, Dr. Robert Malone, is part of this movement: https://doctorsandscientistsdeclaration.org/

And he is leery about the mRNA vaccines especially in children: https://fml.lol/joe-rogan-podcast-episode/

And there is at least one traditional covid-19 vaccine in the works by these guys. https://www.novavax.com/ Hopefully they'll have theirs out in a few months. 

Final thoughts

So the available covid-19 vaccines are good at reducing the average severity of symptoms and the likelihood of death.

They do not prevent people from getting infected.

They do not stop people who get infected from getting sick (even if they make the experience milder).

Some people who get sick end up in the hospital. A few still die.

They do not stop infected/sick people from spreading the virus. In fact, because they don't feel so bad are are unmasked, they may be spreading it more than the unvaccinated. Just logical.

They are not very good with respect to new emerging variants, and may even push the evolution of new strains that are resistant to the vaccine.

Their long-term safety is not well characterized. In fact, their short-term adverse event profile is not well characterized either. There is something going on with the reported deaths data in the CDC VAERS system.

All things considered, vaccine-related policy - the bioethics of issue - and especially the use of these vaccines in children, does not seem to make sense to me. Happy to discuss it.







Friday, September 26, 2014

Caring children of aging parents - or selfish ingrates?

Brussels, Belgium.

The place where, when Francis and Anna were young teenagers, the Nazis began the Belgian part of their atrocities known collectively as the Holocaust almost immediately upon conquering it.

You know. The Holocaust. The Jews being rounded up and enslaved and exterminated. The Holocaust, meaning the Jewish experience, is the largest part of the Nazi atrocities. Nazi euthanasia of undesirables began first, then Jews were determined to be undesirable, and it continued with Catholics and other Christians when Jews became scarce.

Nazi euthanasia is based on the notion of the right to death. Of course, they believed that the State owned the right to kill. But even pro-euthanasia and pro-assisted suicide laws today show that it is the state that governs the right to kill. It is the state who decides, among those who kill innocent people, who are to be prosecuted for murder and who are to be allowed to kill with impunity.

Francis and Anna are old, but basically in good health. They each fear living in loneliness should the other one die first, and so have decided to die together. They will be euthanized voluntarily even though there is nothing wrong with them except fear of something that might not happen.

You would think their loving children would step up and say, Hey Mom and Dad, don't worry! We'll all miss whichever of you should go first, but the other should not fear loneliness because you still have us and your grandchildren! We'll take care of you!

No, they said, in effect, You know what, we can't take care of either of you should one of you die, so we're totally behind your decision to kill yourselves.

The kids, in fact, have done the legwork and found a practitioner willing to kill their parents.

My God, if Belgium were a sane nation, the children and practitioner would be considered murderers. This is murder-for-hire. The doctor is a hit man. In another age, this would be a plot line for Columbo or Kojak or Murder She Wrote.

But, those old fashioned shows are long gone in 2014, and now it is the State in Belgium that owns the right to kill, and has decided that such children and practitioners are not to be prosecuted.

Francis and Anna are, basically, cowards. They fear living alone. They fear living alone and wiping out their savings on staying alive alone. They would commit suicide but "it takes courage," they say, to jump out a window or into a river or hang yourself. But getting a doctor to give you a lethal injection "does not take courage."

Don't Francis and Anna remember the Nazis? They were 15 and 12, respectively, when the Nazis conquered them, and 20 and 17 when the Nazis were defeated. Only 5 years later, with the Nazi atrocities still fresh on everyone's minds, they would be married.

What were they doing during the occupation? Were they Nazi sympathizers? Resisters? Colluders? What? Given that they're cowards, I would expect they're the kind that ratted on their neighbors out of fear of the Germans.

And their kids were oh so eager to help their parents. The parents can't wait for their death day. And who could blame them, with kids like that?

Hey, I wonder... if Francis and Anna's savings are not used up on living alone, who gets the money? Just wondering.

The Brits are looking at this aghast. One politician said, "This is an example of a very dangerous use of euthanasia in entirely inappropriate circumstances. What it demonstrates is that the most stringent safeguards would be needed if this was going to be legalised in the UK."

No, M'Lord, what it demonstrates is that the definition of appropriate circumstances cannot be limited by cruel people who want to limit other people's autonomy and take away the right to kill innocent people for money and the right to be rid of burdensome relatives for a fee. Cruel people like yourself, M'Lord.

A British celebrity has noted that the casual practice of euthanasia in Belgium had developed from a law designed initially for hard cases. She said, "'Once you allow a doctor to assist you to end your life when the patient defines when they are suffering I think you are opening the door to an extension of that law."

No kidding.

"It may be everyone's intention that initially it will be only for a small group of people but how you monitor that and how you enforce that is practically impossible."

Exactly.

"It is terrifying where this could go," she added.

Well, that just depends on your perspective. I think it might be exciting to someone who is a kid with a burdensome relative with a savings account you'd inherit, a coward facing some common hardship, or a doctor who charges a fee for the service.

Or a Nazi.

I think the Nazis never relinquished control of Belgium.






Wednesday, September 17, 2014

Does everything have to be sooooo over the top?

Some folks in London are "shocked and saddened" that people found their idea to serve "Death Row Dinners" disgusting.

I will tell them precisely where their interesting idea went bad. But first a little background.

Here's a version of the news from Fox about the social media backlash. These blokes, whoever they are, thought it would be a good idea to start a restaurant that catered to the notion of what people would like for their last dinner ever. That is to say, if you knew you when you were going to die and could have anything in the world for your last meal, what would it be?

They called it Death Row Dinners.

Their materials showed an array of somber and not very attractive mug shots,  presumably of people who are terrible criminals and guilty of God knows what, with a placard around their necks featuring the menu of their last meal choice. I don't know - perhaps that was the restaurant's actual menu.

They described the dining experience with words related to being in jail, being arrested, being sentenced to death, and all that.

It was over the top with the whole execution motif.

Here's their apology:

“We're shocked and saddened by the response to Death Row Dinners and are genuinely very sorry for any offence caused. The pop up [a kind of restaurant in the UK] is intended to explore the concept of last meals; anyone who has ever been to a dinner party has probably had this conversation – what would they love their last meal to be. In light of the response to the idea we are considering our next steps and will update everyone with our decision.”

Notice what they're shocked and saddened by. Shocked, they were, that anyone was offended.

Yes, we've all sat around the dinner table discussing our favorite foods, and how we'd like to part from earthly life if food were a part of that event.

But this is where these entrepreneurs went wrong.

They went over the top with the death experience and death row and death and jail and death. Did I mention death? "What you'd like for your last meal" really isn't about the death experience at all - it's about the meal. Those conversations are about favorite foods. By making the dining experience about dying, disgusting criminals, their unspoken disgusting deeds deserving death, their deaths, their last means, and relating all of that to your diners' deaths and making them feel like they're also disgusting criminals - that is, by keeping death and gruesomeness so in-you-face in over-the-top fashion, they destroyed all possible enjoyment of the food.

They propose this as a restaurant.

People go to a restaurant to enjoy life, and food.

Ugh. And they're shocked, shocked I tell you!, that this caused offense.

I'm shocked, shocked!, that they're shocked.

This may seem totally unrelated, but I am officially also not a fan of the new Star Trek movies anymore for a very similar reason. They have their good points, but they are also so over the top, that as a long-time Star Trek fan, they have robbed my enjoyment of the Star Trek universe. There was some element of believability in the original series and the Next Generation. But the new stories - totally unbelievable. The characters are good, the cast is good, the stories have some good points. But things are too big, too flashy, too dramatic, too stylized - it's too over the top. I mean seriously, just how big is Kirk's Enterprise, that he has to run miles to get to the warp core, and what the heck is that thing he has to kick, and why is there soooo much wasted and unnecessary SPACE around it, in a fairly early starship design?

But back to food.... Does everything have to be so sweet that it's sickening? Hot sauces that are so hot they put people in the hospital?

Does everything have to be extreme in order to be good?

We have lost all sense of virtue, which holds a middle course. We do not know what "just right" is anymore because we don't know what "right" is to begin with.

Those entrepreneurs are SHOCKED that people are upset. Really. SHOCKED? Really? Their reaction is over the top too. Extreme.

That anyone could be shocked that people are disgusted by disgusting things associated with what could be their very favorite foods is itself shocking.

By the way, the UK is so disgusted with the very idea of "death row" it doesn't have a death penalty. A fine place to start a restaurant called Death Row Dinners.


Saturday, August 23, 2014

What if these people never had been born...?

TheRichest.com, a website full of trivia and gossip that can really drain if not pollute your brain, has published a list of 8 famous people who narrowly avoided being aborted. Surely there are more, or at least people who have had lives that have been rich for themselves and have enriched others. But the fame of these people underscores the fact that abortion robs not only the baby of a life, but the rest of us of the wonderful things they might accomplish.

These people are:
  • Sean Lennon
  • Nick Cannon (the one name I didn't recognize because I don't follow pop culture much - Mariah Carey's husband, which you all might know)
  • Tim Tebow
  • Cher
  • Justin Bieber
  • Celine Dion
  • Steve Jobs
  • Pope St. John Paul II
You can go read their stories at TheRichest.

That article, between the lines, allows several conclusions:
  • The very availability of abortion makes considering it an obligation. I have heard of families faced with an unintended or difficult pregnancy where the first thing decided was, "Well, you're NOT getting an abortion!" I mean, really, the idea that it is the first thing considered, instead of being the last resort, even by people who would not choose it, really says something about our society.
  • These are only 8 of the most famous to people in the US, although many have international reputations. How many others are unsung or obscure but nonetheless accomplishing great things? Of the tens of millions aborted in the last 40 years in the US alone, how many others have we been deprived of? How many in the hundreds of millions worldwide?
  • The probabilities used in calculating whether an abortion makes sense are just that. Probabilities. John Paul II would "probably" have had a hard short life with heart problems, but he didn't. Celine Dion's family was poor, and another child (her) would have been a big hardship. If it's an 80% chance of a bad outcome for the unborn child or his family, that sounds pretty much like a no-brainer for an abortion - but what is lost in that 20%?
  • It's never too late to change your mind, prior to getting the procedure.
I said the other day that the idea of "love your neighbor as yourself" means considering all other human beings, even the unborn, and so connected to ourselves as "to be" ourselves.

And then there's that video of a woman undergoing an abortion and being proud of it. It was "right for her." Her and what she called her "awesome" power to make a life - and destroy it. And what exactly did she destroy? A great singer? A visionary entrepreneur? A powerful saint? What gives her that right?

And is an abortion really a private act after all, when it affects the rest of us so much?

Thursday, August 21, 2014

Dawkins proves my point about atheistic bioethics

First... it's been several months since my last post. I didn't realize it was that long!

Ah, life. May involved my oldest daughter graduating from college and a trip to California for that. June saw a trip to Maryland, to bring my wife to her last summer session for her master's in liberal arts and the Great Books, followed by attending to the needs of my family in her absence, as well as work. The summer was rather busy, with August including my wife's graduation. Lots of good things happening!

I have often said that atheistic ethics, and bioethics in particular, leads to different conclusions that ethics in a culture formed by religion because of the different starting points.

And it is difficult to lump religion together, because their starting points and their concepts of God differ. In his remarks yesterday, President Obama said that ISIS does not represent any religion - because no concept of a just God would tolerate their behavior. Oh, but Mr President, they DO represent a religion and they are doing precisely what their sacred writings demand of them. Just because they have murdered many Shiites and Sunnis does not mean they do not represent that religion - it just means ISIS believes that those particular Shiites and Sunnis are infidels. So you see, "religion" is not a good umbrella term. Lots of bad religions, and good religions used by bad people for bad ends.

With that said, if one holds that there is a God, and that human beings by their superior capacity for intellectual and creative thought that all other critters on this planet lack resemble God in his highest attributes and powers (which are impeded but not totally lacking in people with Down's syndrome), then one would reason ethically and logically in one way.

If one holds that there is no God, and that human life is an accident of mindless processes of the material universe and its inexorable physical laws, then one would reason ethically and logically in another way.

The premises are what determine the conclusions.

Famous atheist Richard Dawkins has recently said it would be immoral to give birth to a baby with Down's syndrome if the woman could get an abortion instead. He has defended his position as "logical."

And he is 80% right - IF his premise that God does not exist is right. The child will have a short life that will be full of hardship, compared to someone "normal." And the parents and other loved ones will have financial, emotional, and other hardships and inconveniences as well. And society has to be reminded that there are those less fortunate that sap our resources and attention and make us remember that we are human beings and not animals after all, because we can't just kill them after they're born. Of course, I know several families with Down's syndrome children, who note that there are wonderful dimensions of this genetic condition, too. Those dimensions would be lost - but on the whole, it would be "better" for all concerned that the baby be aborted.

The 20% in which he is wrong comes from the fact that if God does not exist, then he has no authority whatsoever to tell anyone else in the world what is moral and immoral. About ANYTHING. The final decision of morality has to reside with the person making that decision. He can have his opinion, but pontificating about what is and isn't moral is just him trying to assume the position of a religious authority and impose his morality on everyone. You can agree with him and show me how he reasons well or whatever - but there are other sides to the story and particulars of individual circumstances that he and you do not know, and ultimately, you can offer your opinion and advice, but cannot determine the right and wrong of any individual's decisions. Period. It would be wrong to impose your morality on anyone else.

Ultimately, if there is no God, then the morality of giving birth to a Down's baby is determined by the person who makes the final decision about it.

So, the balance sheet is in Dawkins' favor in certain respects - but his moral authority is zero and everyone is free to disagree with him and declare with as much authority as he that the opposite choice is the more moral.

But what if Dawkins' premise is wrong? Then, all living human individuals, from the moment the exist as living human individuals, are morally indistinct from each other - that is, ALL others have the same moral standing before God and "I" do, and "my" ethical decisions have to reflect that fact. Loving one's neighbor "as oneself" is not "as much as one loves oneself" but "as if that other person was you" - as if your bond to the other was so profound any harm done to him would be harm done to yourself and any good done to him would be good done to yourself.

I knew a guy in high school who loved a particular rock band "as himself." His girlfriend said that the band was "alright" - which was not good enough, and he took it personally, and they broke up over it. So, when we see someone being treated unjustly, even a stranger, do we take it personally, as if we ourselves were treated unjustly?

I am sickened by Dawkins because I believe if he knew me he would have wanted me to be aborted, too. Not because I have Down's, because I don't, but because I have some other intellectual defect that is poisoning society, namely, the idiocy of religious faith. Religion has to be a much huger drain on society than Down's - because hundreds of millions of Americans have religion of some kind, but only one in 1000 children have Down's. And someone like me is part of the problem. But mostly it would be because I have the audacity to say he's wrong.

What's the difference between what Dawkins advocates and ISIS? Only the target of who they believe deserves to live and who doesn't.


Friday, May 9, 2014

Let the Conservative Frenzy Feeding Upon Pope Francis Begin Again - Updates

Here is an article by the AP, highlighting some of the recent comments by Pope Francis, and taking them out of context.

The first thing taken out of context are the two words quoted in the headline: POPE DEMANDS 'LEGITIMATE REDISTRIBUTION' OF WEALTH.

First of all, the Pope did not "demand" anything. Shame on Nicole Winfield, the reporter, and her AP editors. SHAME.

I would like to point out that the Pope's comments are in an address to folks at the UN. As such, these comments have very little doctrinal or disciplinary authority. Popes almost never make "demands" on these occasions, and Popes rarely make "demands" of secular organizations in any case.

Secondly, the Pope did NOT mention a redistribution of "wealth." Shame also on DRUDGE also for doing the same thing. Look, putting the word "wealth" into the Pope's mouth in this context is simply SPIN and not reporting. Why not say "economic benefits" - the Pope's actual words? Because those words are not as sensational. DRUDGE. Really.

Breitbart parrots the AP language. Way to go Breitbart. I can't say "shame" because this is what your organization is really about - not truth, but making your enemies look bad. You're using liberal political tactics to promote so-called conservative policies. As of 10:30 AM EDT, the comments are living up to true Breitbart form. A couple of people try to point out that the AP story is misleading, and they get slammed. Outlets like Breitbart are driving Catholics like me away.

So, the Pope's words were a "legitimate redistribution of economic benefits." There is a difference. Of course the very enlightened and educated and unbigoted and fair and even tempered folks who like to throw fits at places like Breitbart.com would disagree and call me a democrat-loving Marxist for pointing out the difference. But who cares? There IS a difference, and denying it is a denial of reality.

"Redistribution of wealth" means taking money from those who have it and giving it to those who do not. Rob or at least coercively extort from the rich to give to the poor. The Pope did NOT say that. "Economic benefits" can mean so much more than "wealth," and may not even mean "money." It can mean using tax money to, I don't know, run libraries, community centers, health clinics, and museums; provide low interest loans to get housing, cars, and such; and all sorts of things that poor people cannot actually afford in their present state, which if they could, would elevate all of society.  The State could sponsor organizations like Habitat for Humanity, which rehabilitates housing for poor people. And organizations that go to poor countries to educate children, train adults, and improve people's lives.

The resources for such things do not always trickle down - if they did, then the Pope wouldn't be encouraging the State to step in.

People who gain wealth tend to want to keep it for themselves, because gaining it is what they set out to do. There is an inherent resistance to "trickle-down" in greed-based economies. There is. Of course, rich people do spend money, and in that sense it trickles down to some degree. But rich people generally tend to occupy themselves with turning their wealth into more and greater wealth, which does not really trickle down so much. Look, if you had income of $10 million, would you simply SPEND or give away $9.8 million and save the rest for retirement? No, you'd invest, like, 9 million of it, protecting it from trickle-down, and spend the rest on lavish living. Maybe give some way for tax purposes or something.

The AP story does eventually quote more of the statement in question, but again it is out of context. The Pope was careful to frame the statement with the story of Zaccheus, whom the Pope notes acted freely in caring for the poor. The Pope pointed out, "The account of Jesus and Zacchaeus teaches us that above and beyond economic and social systems and theories, there will always be a need to promote generous, effective and practical openness to the needs of others." (I added the bold.)

The Pope then says, "Jesus does not ask Zacchaeus to change jobs nor does he condemn his financial activity; he simply inspires him to put everything, freely yet immediately and indisputably, at the service of others."

So, I must ask the AP, if JESUS does not make DEMANDS of Zaccheus, how on earth do you interpret the Pope's comments, which he frames in mentioning this fact, as a demand? Seriously!

Promoting the "generous, effective and practical openness to the needs of others" is hardly a demand.

I think what's really missing is an examination of the word "legitimate." What might the Pope mean by his encouragement of "legitimate" redistribution of "economic benefits"? Hmmmm.

We have lost the capacity to think clearly and rationally.

UPDATES

John Moody at Fox has bared his teeth. He has the audacity as to tell the Pope his job and that he has exceeded his authority. Hypocrite. Moody exceeds his authority and expertise by doing so. He also proposes that the Catholic church, unlike other religions, should pay taxes. His superficiality officially makes him someone not to take seriously - about anything.

Meanwhile, at Breitbart, the story has thankfully moved down toward the bottom of their page. But in 13 hours, the number of comments has swelled by a factor of over 30 (standing at over 3000), and most of them are vitriolic bigotry.

Conservative News Service (cnsnews.com) reposts the AP story with Ms Winfield's by-line, but at least they change "demand" in the headline to "urges," which is definitely closer to the Pope's intent.